Ron: 0:30 Hello Podcasters I am Ron your host and on this podcast the family discusses what comes after our initial Salvation experience. Are there some things that we can do to initiate our growth and maturity in our relationship to God? I am praying that those who hear this podcast can open your heart to some of the steps that the Holy Spirit is revealing today to God’s sons.
Allan: 1:00 This is how you have a relationship with the Lord. It is that basic relationship that needs to be identified for so many. It is no good to just accept Christ. There is more to who they are than just believing that He exists. Maybe we should talk about the very basic fundamental. What is the next step once you accept Christ as your Savior or Lord and Savior which every way you did it. What is the next step. If you’re just going to exist based on that, yeah you will be saved but to what point. People are asking about healings. There asking for miracles and there is a reason why they are not working today. It is because people are not making the next steps. You know they’re just expecting you know they will pray Oh God please heal this, person. Oh God please heal the nation. Oh God please do this and you are telling God what you think He should do rather than listening to hear what He has to say and then expressing what He is saying. What His heart is at the moment.
Ron: 2:20 If you’re saved, you accept Christ as your Savior and Lord, you don’t stop there. That’s really the starting gate in a walk with God. From that point there needs to be a preparation of your heart in seeking the Lord in definitely in abiding in His Word. And letting that hunger increase in you. You may start out 5 minutes a day praying in the Spirit or exercising tongues if you have that gift. Maybe you will spend 5 minutes a day in the Word. I know it is just a beginning. There has to be the foundation laid where there is a hunger and a pursuit every day. I am a new Christian or a Christian. It doesn’t have to be a new Christian. But I am not pursuing the Lord and yet I am praying for miracles and signs and wonders. It is not going to happen because the Lord, is not Santa Clause. He is requiring things of His people. He is requiring a maturity. He is requiring a dedication. He is requiring a depth of perception, revelation, all these things that don’t happen just because you want them. They happen because you walk with Him everyday and it is an exercise, it’s a drive, it’s a hunger and if you don’t have that then you need to ask for it. Abiding in His Word, it’s so important because His Word is where He connects His presence and in His presence is how you get led. I want to be led. Get into His Word where He can speak to you daily, and He can impart His nature daily and He will. If you’re faithful He will.
Allan: 4:15 That is the real important part Ron because there are so many different ways to read the scriptures. And I think the real important one is, if you read it and you find a revelation of the Lord in it. You’re probably reading it right. The Holy Spirit was given to teach us and as we read and search for Him in the Scriptures. Don’t read it like a story book. Don’t read it like it’s a fact book that you are trying to prove a point. Don’t do that. Find the Lord in it because it is His expression to the earth so that is what we want.
Ed: 4:53 The one thing is actually once you become a Christian is that your mindset has to change. Because now you have to love. If you don’t have that love and that love is an action. You start acting on it with other people. You’ve got to love the people of the world. You know, you don’t have to do the same things that their doing. But the love that has to come from us, comes from God. And that is what is going to change the whole earth. So, it is not a passive thing and that unfortunately most Christians think that it is. If you cannot love your neighbor how can you love God?
Dale: 5:37 I think one of the things that we’ve got to find is a new definition for these words. And it starts, yes, with the definition what does it means to love. And like what Allan was talking about revelation. We need to have a new definition of revelation. A revelation of God is just that. He reveals Himself to you and if that revelation is true you’re going to be exposed to Him. Revelation is a relationship with the Father. I would say, if I am studying the scriptures and I come across an experience from reading that passage or that chapter. God revealed Himself to me in that word. When He reveals Himself to you He is initiating an experience, He is initiating a relationship and what is your response. Psalm 51 is probably is the most complete simple teaching how to have a relationship with the Father. My goodness I want that. And it is amazing that one Psalm how much is in it. You can take that thing and live in it and walk out the will of God for your life and be pleasing to Him. That is the message that I would like to see this podcast get out. Is an intimate one on one relationship with the Father that is pleasing to Him. That we become a delight to Him. That yes you can walk in completeness. You can finish. It is not just a throw it up in the air and hope and pray that something will happen. That basic tenant laid out in Psalm 51 is where we live. I open up the scriptures and I say create in me a clean heart oh God. And hey the scripture jumps off the page and where does it land. It lands in my heart, and I receive it. And I thank Him for it because He revealed Himself to me and He gave me a part of Himself that is mine.
Allan: 8:22 I really believe what we are talking about here is what Paul’s drive was. That I may know Him and the power of His resurrection. We all know that when He was Saul, if you will, he had his salvation experience right. A little bit more intense than most anybody else in the world. However, even though he had that personal meeting it was not enough. He knew that there was more to who the Lord was than what his first meeting revealed to him.
Ron: 9:00 You don’t come by that attitude as a light follower of the Lord. In fact, I don’t think you come by that attitude on any human level. It starts out with opening up to the Lord and let the Holy Spirit walk you into it day by day. Because you’re talking about a dedication that is not common to man but probably very seldom found in humanity.
Allan: 9:26 If at all.
Ron: 9:27 It is so anti human, and anti-carnal mind and anti-human nature, but that doesn’t mean it is impossible. It just means you start where you are at and that is always my mantra in the morning. I start whether I feel good, where I feel bad, where I wake up happy, where I wake up sad. It doesn’t matter. I start where I am at and begin to seek the Lord. And anybody can do that. You just simply open your heart, and you start seeking God. To me that gets rid of all the excuses. No one is going to come before the face of God and said it was too hard, I didn’t know how to do it. He makes the way so simple. You just have to want to. And it is a day by day walk so you may walk one day wanting to. The next day not so much, that’s you. That is not Him. He is still there in His fullness. It is up to you to open your spirit to Him every day. And to me it is exciting because I am realizing first off it is not even up to me as I continue with my walk with God I am finding out that I may have started out with a lot of vim and vigor and a lot of zealousness, and I think most Christians do, new Christians, they start with real zealousness and that begins to change because as you are in His word, He starts transforming you and it becomes, His drive, His faith, His hunger. It is a pretty imperceptible change but what ends up happening is you come into a revelation that Christ dwells within me. His word dwells within me. Christ dwells within me and as I connect in daily with the Lord in His word, in worship, He takes over my life more and more. And it is really exciting because there is an initiative that we can take. It is not just I will sit on my butt and the Lord going to lead me, nah, it won’t happen. But if I take and initiative every day to approach Him then He starts working His Lordship and His will and everything in me. His worship, the cleansing that Dale is talking about. You know, that doesn’t happen because I want it to happen or because I am a good person, or I am going to worship, you know clean up my life or any of that. We are not going to get glory for a blessed thing. It is initiative we take by faith, and He takes over.Deborah::