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Episode 56

How Do I Grow As A Christian?


Are we living a Christian life?

What should I expect?

How do I hear the voice of the Lord, the Holy Spirit?

How did Jesus know to speak only what the Father told Him?

What does hunger have to do with it?

Show Notes:

• What does it mean to be in motion?

• A small child first learns to crawl, then to walk

• Honest faith is putting into action what the Lord shows

you or tells you

• Learn to expect the Holy Spirit to speak to you.

• All of us need an experience with the Lord

• There is nothing in the world worth anything

• God knows the Heart of a man


Matthew 7:21

“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the

kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who

is in heaven will enter.”

John 6:38

For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but

the will of Him who sent Me.

Romans 12:2

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by

the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will

of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect.

John 15:10, 15

10. If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love;

just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His


15. No longer do I call you slaves, for the slave does not know

what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all

things that I have heard from My Father I have made known to


James 2:18, 26

18. But someone may well say, “You have faith and I have

works; show me your faith without the works, and I will show

you my faith by my works.”

26. For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith

without works is dead.

Matthew 25:34-40

“I was thirsty, and you gave me something to drink”

Matthew 7:7

“Ask, and keep asking and it will be given to you; seek, and

keep seeking and you will find; knock, and keep knocking and it

will be opened to you.”

1 Samuel 3:1-14

God speaks to Samuel

1 Kings 8:39

Then hear in heaven Your dwelling place, and forgive and act

and render to each according to all his ways, whose heart You

know, for You alone know the hearts of all the sons of men,

1 Samuel 16:7

But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look at his appearance or

at the height of his stature, because I have rejected him; for

God sees not as a man sees, for man looks at the outward

appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”

Luke 2:41-52

Jesus as a youth in the temple.

49. And He said to them, “Why is it that you were looking for

Me? Did you not know that I had to be in My Father’s house?”


• The principle of being in motion is a huge principle.

• That is the only time I get revelation and I get

understanding is when I am moving

• Just ask the Lord to show you Himself

• It was just the fact of relating to somebody in their need

• Read with an anticipation and an expectation that the Holy

Spirit is going to speak to you

• Pester Him, whatever it takes, till He speaks to you

Take Away:

Jesus said that He only did what He saw the Father doing, only

spoke what He heard the Father speaking. If we are to be like

Him, then we probably should seek to hear what He is saying.


Lead in: 0:00

Ron Introduction: 0:29: Hi, podcasters I am Ron your host and

today’s podcast looks at the basic concern that should be on every

Christian’s heart. How can I grow in God? What practical steps can I

take every day the will help me mature as a Christian? Holy Spirit we’re

asking that you would help us open our hearts and be able to hear what

you will speak and impart to us today.

Ron: 0:59: The principle of being in motion is a huge

principle and I think that’s one thing that the enemy uses against

Christians, against everybody is to try to get you to stop and analyze

yourself: What is wrong with my heart. Where am I with the Lord.

What’s going on? What should I do? What’s my destiny? which you

never find if you wait and try to figure it out. You only find that when

you’re doing the will of God, when you’re in motion. Then He starts

showing you things. I don’t even think you can repent by sitting around

and meditating on your navel trying to figure out what is wrong with

me? Or I fell down yesterday and now I need to seek the Lord and find

out what was wrong with me and why did I fall down and all this stuff.

You will go around that mountain forever and you just die. It is a thing

of faith. You get up, you brush yourself off. Okay Lord sorry you

know here I go. I am going to keep walking with you. And then when

you are walking, He starts showing you. That is the only time I get

revelation and I get understanding is when I am moving. If I’m sitting,

trying to figure stuff out. It is a sure sign I am in trouble. So, I want to

bring this back real quick. Kind of a question to everybody here, I am

kind of a new Christian, maybe I been walking with the Lord for a year

and I don’t know my destiny and you guys are talking about getting in

motion and I don’t even know what to do. How do I start, how do I find

out? I want to walk with God. I don’t know, you know I don’t know

what to do. Do I go out and feed the hungry? Do I read the word all

day? How do I start to get in motion so that I can hear the voice of the

Lord? I think it is a fair question.

Deborah: 3:09: I would tell you as a small child what did you

learn to do? First you learn to walk then you learn to do other things.

First you crawl and then you walked. What you’re doing in the presence

of the Lord just, just call on the name of the Lord. Just ask the Lord to

show you Himself. Ask the Lord to reveal Himself to you. Don’t worry

about the other things that you don’t understand. Put them on a shelf.

Put them away from you for right now. Just reach into knowing the

Lord. Reach in to find out who the Lord is and who He is to you and

how you are to relate to Him. Ask Him to make it real to you. Just

where you are at. That is what I would say to a new Christian. They

don’t have to worry. You don’t have to worry about the other things.

Don’t worry about your destiny just love the Lord, just worship Him,

just talk to Him, just relate to Him and the Lord will show you one step

at a time. Take one step at a time.

Ron: 4:15: Man, you guys are talking about stuff that I don’t

understand at all. So, I mean, what should I expect? Will God speak to

me and give me these big revelations and stuff or I don’t want to miss

what the Holy Spirit will speak to me if it is big or it is small. How do I


Ed: 4:38: The one thing that the Holy Spirit does is He

never gives you something huge. It is always small things that build up

until it becomes a huge thing. But when you start out it is just little

things. You have your faith, reading the Word God may speak

something to you. Or maybe you are going to speak something to

someone else. Maybe you will feed someone, maybe you will be out on

the road and you will see this one guy there and he just looks like God

has taken him through the mill. And maybe a little bit of food and stuff

like that, that would lift his spirits right up to where he has to be to

continue on. It is a thing of faith and works. You know some people

say show me your faith. The only way you can show me your faith is by

your works. Not that your works are anything but you’re reaching in to

minister. And is it just little things. You didn’t feed me. You didn’t

clothe me. You didn’t visit me. These are little things. These are not

HUGE things that you have to do. No, it was just the fact of relating to

somebody in their need.

Allan: 4:50: Read the life of Christ in the Gospels and every

time it mentions, “it is written of me” go back to Isaiah, Jeremiah, the

Psalms in the Old Testament. Jesus studied the Torah which is to us

what we call the Old Testament today. He found out who He was by

reading those scriptures. He knew John the Baptist was going to baptize

Him. He knew He was going to die on the cross. He knew people were

going to be saved because of Him. He knew people would be healed

because of Him. And finding out how to hear the word of the Lord is

crucial in that you have to read with and anticipation and an expectation

that the Holy Spirit is going to speak to you and show you what the

scriptures are saying because we all know John 3:16 everybody knows

John 3:16 but you can read that and you can read it to prove a point but

when the Holy Spirit makes it real to you 10 years ago and then makes it

real to you today it has a different meaning to it. It is not necessarily as

it is written. The Holy Spirit is the one who will give direction. He is

the one who will show you. He was sent to remind us what Jesus was

saying. What Jesus talked about. It is His job to do that. But the

interesting thing with the scripture is you can read it a thousand times

and have a thousand different interpretations based on what you are

reading. I know there are seventy different was to read the scriptures.

You can read it to prove a point which only creates arguments. You can

read in a numerical version and boy that gets intense. There is a lot of

ways but ask the Holy Spirit. If you ask Him even if you don’t believe

in Him first, you just keep asking Him. He will start to show you and

then when He shows you something, ask Him to get confirmation and or

what does it mean to me. You know you are talking about an early

Christian. You know if you want to learn the voice of the Lord. Ask

Him, Ask Him to speak to you, Ask Him this or that you know. When

you’re driving down the road or the freeway or whatever and you hear

this still small voice say take this offramp. And you pay attention to it,

maybe it is the Lord, maybe not. If it’s not you just might have added

couple of minutes to your trip. But the thing is, if it was the Holy Spirit

or the Lord telling you to take that offramp. Maybe there is a purpose.

Maybe there is an accident getting ready to happen up ahead of you and

He is trying to keep you from that scenario. Maybe something simple, it

maybe something complex like that, we don’t know. We know that if

we listen and take those little steps that He says, eventually He speaks

more and more clearly and we start to be more attuned to what He is

saying and how He is saying it and we get to recognize His voice. Most

of the time you hear the Lord’s voice and it’s like, that is just my own

head speaking, you know. Maybe, maybe not. But if you don’t act on it

you won’t find out.

Ed: 9:47: You know you have been reading the scriptures now

probably for a year and all of a sudden you go back and don’t expect to

find what you found before because God is a God that is moving on.

And the scripture that you may have read a year ago because you have

grown in the Lord now the Lord is going to reveal something a little bit

deeper to you. Each time you read the scriptures read it anew and let

Him speak to you.


common. And I think this maybe part of what your asking Ron is what

experience are you rooted and grounded in. What was your first

experience? You may have had it and don’t know it or maybe you’re

still hearing a voice calling you and many people have been in an

organized group whether it be church or a fellowship meeting or

whatever have done what they call “answer an alter call”. And there’s a

lot of people that have relationship with the Lord that didn’t meet Him

that way. But there is an initial experience that you will never forget. If

you had some experience and a little bit of this and a little bit of that I’d

say like what Allan is saying, seek Him, pester Him what ever it takes.

Till He speaks to you and you know without a doubt that He is saying,

come follow me. Because what you are launching is the first of an

uncountable number of experiences with Him. A walk with God is put

together of one experience after another. All through our lives. And I

don’t care if your experience was last Friday night. I don’t care if it was

at a Shabbat in a synagogue. I don’t care if it was at the race track. God

speaks to you, listen and keep listening but also keep asking. Keep

asking, tell me more. And there is nothing wrong with yesterday being

your first experience because the experience that I am having today and

the one that I going to have tomorrow is similar or even the same as your

experience because it is God speaking, He is giving you Himself. If you

will give yourself to Him and that is a beginning and that is actually in a

way a walk with God is very simple. The rules don’t really change. You

just keep doing them. The cry of my heart is I can hear well done my

good and faithful servant. As this podcast goes out I loose you, I loose

you into that first experience or I loose you into that experience today

and tomorrow.


even know what you are driven to. You know, you just, know that your

life is not worth living the way it is, and you don’t see any real future

which is a good thing because there is no real future out there, the

tantalizing thing of the world is exactly that, it is a deception and futility

and I would speak to young people especially that are starting out in life.

I just bless you not to bite on the hook of the world. And I know that it

is tantalizing and I know that it looks good and all that. There is nothing

out there that is worth it is just not anything out there. Take it for what it

is worth, you can call us old fuddy-duddies but the truth is there is a lot

of perception, and wisdom here that has been beat into us. So, it is not

like we never were young. We weren’t tantalized or drawn in but God

did a work in us and there’s, there is a perception and revelation that we

have come to and we would love to impart. We would love to draw you

in, even if you just kind of look at us and just listen because you’re

annoyed with us. That’s OK be annoyed, you know but listen. You

know and then, you know, ask the Lord, talk to Him. You know even

just go somewhere where nobody can see you so they can’t call you

crazy and just talk to Him. And ask Him out loud, you know are these

guys out of their mind or what? You know, and He will speak to you if

your serious. I mean you have to be serious. But if your serious and

you don’t want your life to go down the normal path that billions of

people lives’ have went down which is just futility and you really have a

heart that wants something different and be something different in this

earth because there is a tremendous thing that God is bringing forth. It’s

you can’t put it into words. It is beyond what we can ask or think.

Anyway, it’s kind of it’s a little bit different podcast but you know what.

It just feels right, it is just a reaching out to people.


mentioned the heart. God knows the intent of the heart and if your

intension is honest and you want to know, He knows that. But if you

approach Him, you don’t believe in Him, you’re just taking a challenge

and you’re just going to take it on a natural. He sees that. He is not

going to respond. You know first step, we must believe that He is.

Once we believe that He is with our heart. We don’t see Him. We have

never heard Him speak to us until now, as far as we know. It doesn’t

matter. The moment that you believe that He is, then He will find a way

to be real to you. There is, one thing that really accompanies that is a

hunger. Imagine that you haven’t eaten lunch or better yet haven’t eaten

for a week. How hungry are you to know Him?

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